Bench Pressing and Shoulder Pain Solutions Part 3

If you just joined in the conversation here, be sure to read the posts from the start of this series below

Shoulder Pain While Doing a Bench Press Gone Part 1

Bench Pressing and Shoulder Pain Solutions Part 2

The Solution So Far

In part 1 we discused Dave coming into the Extreme Human Performance Center here in Minnesota with pain while doing a bench press without any weight on the bar (so 45 lbs) and awhile later in the same session working up to 270 lbs without any pain!

In part 2 we discussed a solution that you can try yourself and what I did to get Dave back to benching pain free in a short amount of time.

The key in part 2 was the nervous system and looking at some opposite joints.  Dave’s LEFT shoulder was the issue, so we did some very specific mobility work for his RIGHT hip.

Now in Part 3, we will discuss the other key factor to keep you moving in the right direction, setting personal records (PRs) and increasing your athletic performance both on the field and in the gym!

Biomechanics

Most of you are probably surprised that I am now discussing more biomechanics.  When I first started learning more about exercise, I was convinced that the biomechanical path had all of the answers   Heck, I even did a MS in Mechanical Engineering from Michigan Tech (say what up to the Yooopers) with a concentration in Biomechanics.  I spent years looking at the stuff and read even more for fun.  I will save you the discussion about the mathematical theory of plasticity and other fun stuff; so stick with me.

When I started doing Z-Health about 3.5 years ago, I fully realized the power of the nervous system since it was actually controlling the muscles and of course your movements. WOW!  Seems so obvious I know.
If your nervous system is out of whack, your performance is not ideal!

Most of my blog posts here are about how to deal with the nervous system and get the most out of it, primarily because

1) it works

2) almost nobody is talking about it

3) it works really fast

It will probably be a surprise to some of you that I am now talking about biomechanics again!  The reality is that optimal lifting technique is always important and almost everyone agrees on that.

Integration

The key is how to integrate the nervous system into the biomechanical model.  Many fitness experts are way too focus on biomechanics ONLY.  Do we truly know if your right glute is not working and that is your issue? Maybe, maybe not.  Is it ONLY your psoas?  What about all of the other muscles around that area?  Whatever your answer, we need to stay focused on the END RESULT.  That is what matters.

Are you lifting more weight while having less pain and becoming a better athlete?

“The Answer”

The approach that I use now is simply addressing 1) the nervous system and 2) the mechanical system (soft tissue, muscle, etc).

The nervous system answer was in part 1.

The mechanical answer is that we need to change the function of the tissue to work better.

In Dave’s case, we found that he had a very hard time with right hip internal rotation with his knee straight.  After doing that, the pain dropped dramatically.

I suspect that there is some tissue in his right hip that needs better function.   How do we get better function and then a tissue change to that area?  Exercise!  Load ‘em up.

Corrective Exercise

Truth be told, I have not done any standard “corrective exercise” work for about 3 years now.  I used to do a crap ton of it and while it worked to some degree, but I was never happy with the results.

The solution In Dave’s case he ended up doing a forward lunge to 45 degrees on the right leg with internal rotation at the hip.

How?

“Test the parts then test the whole” -Frankie Faires

We tested a forward lunge – good
Next tested a forward lunge to 45 degree – better
Then a forward lunge to 45 degree with internal hip rotation – best!

The testing was a range of motion test as discussed in the Gym Movements DVD and in the new upcoming Grip n Rip DVD (which has tons of amazing info on it, coming soon, so stay tuned here).

Car Talk

Ever listen to the Car Talk guys Click and Clack?  I have only listened to them a few times and I loved that they were so excited about cars.  I get the same way about exercise and human performance – how to get you to bust even more PRs!

If your car pulls to the right going down the road, what do you do?  You turn the steering wheel a bit to the left to get the car to go straight.

Think of this steering as changing the effects on the nervous system.  Each time you do a mobility drill targeted at the nervous system, you are turning the wheel a bit to the left.    The downside is that the car now go straight (increased performance, less pain), but you need to keep providing input by turning it a bit left.

You bring the car in and find that you had a bent tie rod (or some mechanical issue) that was causing the car to pull to the right all the time.   They drop a new one in (for way more money than you expected) and hours later your car now goes in a straight line, without you having to steer it left a bit.  Nice!

Your Body As a Car

Tissue is constantly changing, and by doing this particular lunge, it is like replacing the tie rod in your car; over time the tissue will adapt to a new and better function!  The results is more performance and less pain PERMANENTLY.    The shorter the issue, the shorter this process.

Summary

For long term change to have you hitting PRs like a crazy person in less pain, you need to
1) Address the nervous system via joint mobility work (some times eye movements too, but that is another topic)
2) Address the mechanics of the tissue via “corrective” exercise

Without addressing both of these, your results may be more short term.

I know this was something that I did NOT do for quite some time.  Athletes would come in, I would address the nervous system and get them out of pain and moving better; but long term they would have other issues or the same one would crop up again.   I knew they still had some “movement issues” but once they were out of pain it was hard to get them to come back again.

Now I incorporate some type of loading into their “homework” to get them moving in the right direction in case I don’t see them again.    I also emphasize that they need to have their lifting form evaluated to make sure it is correct and good for their body!   A perfect squat may NOT be the best exercise for them.

Don’t repeat my mistakes and be sure to address both the nervous system and the mechanical system with a customized approach.

Comments?

What do you think?  Let me know below!  I look forward to your comments as always.

Rock on
Mike T Nelson

PS
For more information on how to set up your own training program to have you hitting PRs in the gym all with less pain, you will need to pick up the new Grip n Rip DVD once it is out.   As soon as it is released, I will have the info here.  Not sure what the final price will be as Adam Glass,  Brad Nelson and friends are handling it; but I know it will not be cheap.   If you are good, you are not cheap.

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Trainer Mike T Nelson Testimonial: Shoulder Pain While Doing A Bench Press Gone!

The Night I “Couldn’t” Bench Press By Dave “The Athlete Creator” Sandel

Just like every other Tuesday, it was bench press night with Mike. However, this Tuesday was different. I sent him an email earlier in the day stating:

“Tonight might be prehab/rehab for me. I was feeling just a touch of shoulder pain in my left shoulder after last week, and it was worse after training last night. This is, unless, your voodoo works again.”

So, I showed up at the usual time, did my usual Z-health CNS warm-up, and did some push-ups to test my shoulder. Push-ups tested fine and without pain. I thought, “Hmm, maybe everything will be alright tonight.”

Then it was my turn to warm-up with the empty bar. After a few slow, pain-free, concentrated reps I decided to try exploding a rep off my chest. That nearly caused my left arm to collapse because of the shooting pain in my left shoulder, just as I had felt before.

After a brief description of the previous night’s workout, Mike put his head down and started mumbling something to himself. Something about external rotation, abduction, sagittal planes, and some other stuff I didn’t quite recognize (eventhough I’m studying for my CSCS certification).

After a minute or so he finally had his answer. We started with some z-health mobility work directly on the shoulder, and then tested it out on the bench. It was better, but still not pain-free.

This is where it got a little weird…

He had me lie on my back, internally rotate my right leg (remember, my left shoulder is what was hurting), and perform cross-body leg circles. After a few tests doing band pull-aparts, we decided to try it out on the bench.

Lo and behold, I was virtually pain-free!

He explained what the drill was doing and why it works. I understood all of that, and it made perfect sense.

Now, I know there is a direct connection between opposite-side joints, but I still can’t wrap my head around why a “trauma” to my right hip is causing pain in my left shoulder. Oh well, I’ll leave that for another visit.

In the end, you’re probably wondering how my bench press session went.

Well, as I stated in the beginning, I walked in thinking I was going to be doing some mobility and prehab/rehab work all night. As it turns out, I actually ended up bench pressing 5 more pounds in a max effort lift than the previous week!

Not only that, but I added more volume on my accessory lifts as well! All in all, I’d say it was a pretty good night.

Thanks, Mike!

Dave Sandel
www.athletecreator.com

Bench 45 lbs with Pain To Bench 270 lbs Without Pain In One Session?

How?

I know this seems insane that someone could literally go from barely being able to press the bar without pain to benching around 260 lbs without pain, so that is the reason I had him write it up in his own words above.

If you are interested in how the heck this can work and look into the methods behind the madness, drop a comment below and if I get 10 comments by 1pm tomorrow (Thurs March 11, CST) I will have a post about how it works.

If you are in pain, you are limiting your performance!

This also saved Dave about 4-8 weeks of “standard” rehab type exercise work, during which he would be told not to bench (and for good reason since benching was painful).

Add to that time period 4 weeks at least to get back to where he was before and we probably saved him about 3 months in one session!

How much would you pay to get 3 months of training time back?

I know I would pay a lot for that.

Now It Is Your Turn!

A Huge thanks to Dustin for taking the time to write that up and taking action to look for an answer to his pain and movement issues.

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Drop me an email by clicking HERE to move better with less pain today!

Rock on

Mike T Nelson

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Mike T Nelson and Extreme Human Performance Testimonials

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PPS

10 comments below by 1pm tomorrow Thurs March 11 for the secret to how this is done!  Post a comment below now.

Amazing Feet on TED Talks

The feet truly are amazing and if you have not seen TED Talks, you are really missing out.

Optimal foot/ankle function is essential for elite athletic performance.

Messed up feet/ankles = messed up hips =  piss poor athletic performance

I loved this talk, especially since I did a Masters in Mechanical Engineering focusing on Biomechanics.

Check out this one below!

What do you think?

Rock on
Mike T Nelson

PS

Thanks to Laree at DaveDraper.com for initially posting this one

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Biofeedback Training: Move Forward In All Possible Directions

Sam Langford

“Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do.”-Goethe

The PR train rolls on with biofeedback training (ala Gym Movements)!

I have been hearing about tons of people busting PRs like crazy.   If you are on twitter, use the tag #Preveryday and start posting your PRs for a chance to win a really cool prize from Ryan at Stronger Grip.

Last night I was working on my dissertation paper and took a “study break” to go lift.  Trap Bar Deadlifts were sounding good, so I put on 135 and tested it and waaaaala, tested great!

I worked through my warm up and kept adding weight and it kept testing well.  I did 405 and it was easy w great bar speed (another indicator is the speed of the lift).

Whoo ha!

This was 20 lbs off my current PR and I knew that I could do 455 lbs, so I added a 25 to each side.

The moment of truth: it came up a bit slow, but felt very smooth and I got it!  This was a 25 lb PR is only a few weeks.

425 x 1 PR on Jan 31, 2010

455 x 1 on March 7, 2010 (unfortunately my camera was full and I did not get it on film)

So in about 5 weeks I was able to add 25 lbs to my max.  The interesting part is that I only trained trap bar deadlifts one other time during those 5 weeks.  On that day, 365 lbs felt very heavy and I just did some reps around 315.

Optimal Every Time

By using biofeedback it allows you to test what will be best for you on that day at that time!  Maybe today is a max lift on bench but your program design says to do 3 x 10 for squats.    Did you just miss a great bench session?  How would you know?

Ask any experienced lifter and they will tell you to not miss those days that everything is working well, you feel “on” and you should go for a new max on that day (1 RM, 1 rep max).  You may not get that day “back” for some time.

I call BS on this.

I would say that if you test it each day, you can have a virtual ground hog’s day of never ending PRs!

This ground hog loves hitting PRs too!

This may not always be a max lift (1 RM), but it will happen in the following

• Volume (total amount of work done)
• Intensity (max weight lifted for a single rep or % of 1 RM)
• Density (amount of work done in a given time)

Keep moving forward in whatever direction you can, each day.    Your goal is do and be better tomorrow than today.  Nothing stays the same.

There is nothing special about me at all.  Heck, most of the athletes I train make faster progress than I do.  The goal is to be better today.

How many people do you meet that are BETTER each time you see them?

Sign me up!

Comments

What do you think?  Is this possible?  I want to hear from ya in the comments!

Rock on
Mike T Nelson

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Are you making your workouts easy or hard?

Check out this video of Olympic super start Apolo Ohno training.  Tell me what you see most of the time:

What do you notice when he competes?

What did you see?

Do you see what I see?

He is the most decorated Winter Olympian and there is nobody competing on the level he is for the length time he has in speed skating.

Watching him skate is a thing of beauty. Power and grace. Extremely fluid. He makes it look very easy, but is competing at the highest level.

Why is it that most (not the readers of this blog of course, way too bright for that)  are making it look hard?

The goal is to make the difficult LOOK easy.

Make it look easy and get BETTER results.

Sounds insane I know.  Try it first before you dismiss it.  Test it.

As the old saying goes, success leaves clues.

Drop me a line in the comments below and let know your results!

Rock on

Mike T Nelson

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Joint Mobility for a Shoulder Issue, Which Joints Help the Most?

Common wisdom would say that you need to work on the shoulder.  Perhaps

Further done the chain they say scapular mobility.  Perhaps

Now thoracic spine mobility is the in thing.  Does that help?  Perhaps

What about opposite hip function since we know they are connected via the serape effect?  Perhpas

Opposite foot and ankle?  Same side wrist?

The key question is “How do you know”

Test it

Everyone is different, so you will need a custom approach with each athlete.

In general, for shoulder issues I find the following to work really well

• Same side wrist
• Thoracic Spine
• Opposite Hip
• Opposite foot/ankle

Does this work all the time?  No, but most of the time is does for acute/chronic movement issues.

If you get rid of the pain, is the athlete good to go?

No, you need to make sure they can play their sport at the same level as before.  Performance must be evaluated.  If there is still a decrease in performance, they are not 100%, despite passing whatever wizz bang test of the week they ace.

Comments?

What do you think?  What works for you?  Let me know in the comments section!  I love comments!!

Rock on

Mike T Nelson

PS

Thanks to Jodie for letting me film her in the video as an example.  Only 3 more weeks until the big wedding date for us!

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Inside Look at Grip n Rip 2.0 from Swager Strength

If you missed Grip n Rip 2.0 this year, you missed out.   I unfortunately was noly able to stay there for about 3 hours in the AM and since Jodie and I were hopping on plane that early afternoon to Baja Mexico (more details on that soon too).

Great stuff and the guys from Swager Strength were there in full force too. I picked up one of their 2 inch solid axle thick bars. SWEET!

This is about twice the diameter of a normal bar and there is absolutely ZERO flex to it. I love it so far.

Check out the video below of Adam Glass, Brad Nelson, and the guys at Swager Strength for an inside look at Grip n Rip 2.0

Summary

Great stuff and I will hopefully make it to the next one for sure!

Be sure to check out the fine folks at Swager Strength for some amazing products that you will not find anywhere.

Tell them I sent ya. I get nothing to promote them. Not one cent, but they are stand up guys who make excellent products at very fair prices.

If you went to Grip n Rip, drop me a comment on how it went and what you thought of the event.

Rock on
Mike T Nelson

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Gym Movements Biofeedback, Z-Health Joint Mobility, Where is the hard data?

Walter Miller, Strength Athlete, Middleweight wrestling champion circa 1919

I am back!  Did you miss me?

Thanks for your patience with my response to comments last week. Jodie and I had a blast in Baja Mexico at a small town called La Ventana. We went down with some friends to hang out, see that orange thing in the sky that they call the sun and kiteboard.

We had a blast and Jodie did great kiteboarding too! I got out and rode 4 days (every day that there was wind) and even did a 7 mile downwinder back to where we were staying. More details to come soon.

Gym Movements, Z-Health, Hard Numbers Please!

One of the requests that I have received is one asking for hard numbers. Since I am a researcher, I like numbers. Heck, I did a whole MS in Mechanical Engineering and a minor in Mathematics, so I better like numbers! ha! To be honest, they were never my strong suit, but after years of practice I got pretty good at it. When I started I did not think any math beyond Calc 4 even existed, wow, I was wrong.

I need to thank Kevin who is a strength coach on the East Coast for taking the time to do this. While this is far from a peer reviewed, placebo controlled study, it does show us some important things.

Take it away Kevin!

Mike

I purchased Gym Movements and I am really looking forward to the video. This past weekend I have been testing myself and 2 of my high school clients with both Z Health and some of the material I saw from the Gym Movements clips. this past weekend I had a girl I train do the following

Step 1 Toe touch test

Step 2. Vertical Jump Test (18 inches on a jump mat)

Step 3 do a “bad squat on the toes for 10 reps

Step 4 Jump again (16.4 inches)

Step 5. do some Z Health drills (ankle and hip mobility)

Step 6 Retest vertical and hit 18.2

Step 6. Static stretch (hit 16 inches)

Step 7 Z Health drills (18.5)

She looked at me like I was crazy and asked what I was doing? I filled her in and she was very interested in what I had to say

With me this weekend I have been doing static stretch tests, Active Isolates tests and Z Health test and EVERY TIME. I get more range of motion with the Z Health Drills I learned from Sara’s DVD.

I will let you know what I think about the Gym Movements DVD, but I think a combination of the Gym Movements DVD and getting the Z R-Phase is what I need

I am amazed how much your body “clears up” by just doing the ankle Mobs.

Thanks

Kevin

What Did We Learn

Now we have some hard numbers to show that what you do training wise and mobility wise has an IMMEDIATE effect upon your body.

Good training and mobility results is massive changes, very fast! I first learned this at the R-Phase cert from Dr. Cobb. When I do Z-Health sessions, the whole premise is that you have them walk (gait) and then try a Z-Health drill, then have them walk again. If their gait (walking movement) is better, that is a good drill. If not, then try another drill.

Exercise will have the same effect.

Good exercise= better movement and performance

I Want To Hear From You!

What are your thoughts on this? Let me know in the comments and if you have any similar data, I would love to hear from you!

Rock on
Mike T Nelson

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TRX Suspension Trainer Exercises:

The Professor Does Push Up Variations via Video from the Lab

The Professor is back in the ice cold lab here in Minnesota with his super warm lab coat to bring you some chest exercises for you using the TRX suspension trainer.

As you can see in the video above, it is always fun to do those push ups after a nice bench press session!

Comments

Let me know what exercises you want to see the professor do next time by leaving some comment love below!

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Mike T Nelson

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Gym Movements DVD is Now Available: Perpetual Progress in the Gym Now!

I am totally stoked that the Gym Movements DVD is finally available for everyone to order.  I literally just got the green light minutes ago!

You are going to be blown away by the progress in the gym you will make from the  Gym Movements DVD using biofeedback for exercise program design.

The feedback we have been getting is really nuts and to be honest, has exceeded my expectations.

There is a special introductory price too for a limited time.

Go to this link now

Gym Movements: Perpetual Progress

Special Bonus from Extreme Human Performance ONLY

When you purchase the Gym Movements DVD HERE, you will only get access to this special teleseminar that I will be conducting at the end of the month.   I’ve been using this system for over 2 years and I will answer tons of your questions and give you the inside track on how to maximize it.

I will reveal things that only my online consulting and personal training clients know and secrets that have never been published on this site.    This will jump start your progress like crazy and you can ask me your questions directly.

Again, this only applies if you order the Gym Movements DVD from this site!

This is an additional bonus not to be missed.  I normally charge at least $110 an hour for my time, but you will get it for free.

This special bonus is only for Extreme Human Performance customers and It is also for a limited time only!

You must have your order placed by midnight central time this coming Thurs Feb 4 to get the free teleseminar! No exceptions.

FAQ

Who Do I Contact with Product Questions?

I am selling the product only, and it is something that I truly believe in and have used for well over 2 years; but I did NOT make the product nor do I do the marketing for it.  Any direct product questions and order information please see the website at Gym Movements: Perpetual Progress

Why Are You Selling This?

It is something that works great and as stated above I have used it on myself and others for quite some time (read: years) with amazing results.  I will only sell products here that believe in 100%.

What If I Don’t Want To Buy This Product

That is up to you and I will continue to bring you the latest information on how to break a crazy number of personal records in the gym and on the field, all for free, so keep checking in!  Keep in mind that I will refer back to the Gym Movements DVD though since it has all the exact details on how to use the program to the fullest degree.

How Is This Different Than Any Other Fitness Program Design?

Gym Movements gives you the ability to simply and easily measure your own biofeedback, allowing you to custom-design your workouts each and every time you go to the gym. The result is a new personal record virtually every time you train.   Does your current training program do that?

Why Are Personal Records Important?

You are either going forward or backwards. If your body is constantly doing more, lifting more, doing it in less time, your body has no choice but to add muscle and strength!

Can I Forward Your Site Info to My Friends?

YES!  Please forward this to all your friends, send it out on twitter, facebook, etc  Spread the word.  Hit the stumble icon just below here, the twtter icon on the top of post, go crazy.

Summary

Gym Movements is finally here and you owe it to yourself to go and check it out now before the special bonuses go away.

Gym Movements: Perpetual Progress

Rock on
Mike T Nelson
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PPS

Don’t forget that when you purchase Gym Movements from this site, I will have a special teleseminar for all those that purchased it by midnight central time, this Thurs Feb 4.  You will only get access to this special teleseminar if you purchase the Gym Movements DVD HERE.  I’ve been using this system for over 2 years and I will answer tons of your questions and give you the inside track on how to maximize it.  If you miss the call, I will send you the MP3 of it but again only if you buy the DVD here.   Get your copy of Gym Movements NOW by clicking HERE.