Am I Really Helping People Get Better Results in the Gym and Life?
January 22nd, 2011
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by Mike T Nelson · Filed Under: Bigger Muscles (Hypertrophy) · Gym Movements Biofeedback

Bit by bit, the pyramids were built (source)
As I was reading the follow up comments to Frankie’s post An Open Letter to Member of The Movement (if are easily offended, don’t read it and complain to me; you have been warned), it brought up something I have been thinking about a ton lately.
Am I helping people get better in the gym or am I making myself FEEL better?
Are they mutually exclusive?
Commercial Gym Training 101:
Some days when I go to a commercial gym (which is only about once per week since I normally train in the awesome Extreme Human Performanc Center: aka my cold garage), it is hard to not think “wow, they could be doing so much better.” How arrogant of me, I know, but stay with me.
Here is a story you will hear time and time again. I get to the commercial gym yesterday and luckily I remember my headphones since the music there is horrible (loving the last CD from the band Ventana by the way), and I am part of the way done when out of the corner of my eye I see a guy struggling on the flat DB bench from rep 2 all the way to rep 12. His arms were shaking leaves on a tree in a tornado, his face looked like someone made him drink raw lemon juice with no chaser, and I thought for sure he was going to blow a vein in his head.
Lifting should not be that hard. I am not advocating pink DBs for all now, but the goal is provide overload in 3 ways: 1) more weight 2) more volume (weight x reps) or 3) better density (volume/ time). The goal is not to blow vessels in you head. You bicep will not magically get bigger when that happens.
If you provide overload however, the body has NO choice but to adapt in that direction with more strength and bigger muscles.
Gym No-Logic
Nobody sets up their work thinking “Oh boy. I want to set up my day so that I am just toasted by the end of the day!”
Nope.
Their goal is to accomplish as much work as possible, with the lowest cost (still feel good at the end of the day).
While you can’t see it, virtually every gym has an invisible force field that sucks out the frontal lobe of your brain as soon as you step through the door. If you enter a Planet Fitness, you get your whole brain taken out, so stay away from that place. Although I hear if you attempt to perform some illegal deadlifts there it shows you were able to block the force field, and hence will be kicked out anyway.

Stay out of Planet Fitness or risk losing this! (source:wiki)
Everyone (out there, not here) in the gym is convince that how hard you TRY matters.
I call BS on that.
What you DO and HOW you do it matters most. Remember that whole overload concept?
If you feel like it was brutally hard, that does not change how much weight you actually lifted.
Heck, I can apply the same thing to my own training looking back. I slap my forehead like Homer Simpson and yell “Duhhhhhh!” “What was I thinking?”
“Was I even thinking?” So I am far from immune to it.
The goal is overload, NOT the feeling of trying really hard.
Is your training going the wrong way? If so, stop! (source)
I can put you on a BOSU ball and you will FEEL like squating with a light weight is hard. It does not make it better. Quite the opposite –you just decreased overload. Wrong direction. Stop. You are going the wrong way.
Better Is the Goal
Let’s flip back to my question now of “Am I helping people get better or am I making myself FEEL better?”
Am I more married to how I feel about interactions with people looking to add more muscle, more strength and less fat than their result?
I used to try to explain to people from second one when they talked to me about their training about how wrong I thought not just part of it all of it was – ALL of it!
Oooops. What was the result of that interaction? I FELT better, but did I change THEIR behavior for the better? Nope.
Plus I am not young enough now to know everything!
If I am results based, how much was I actually helping them? Not much as they were in the gym doing the exact same thing.
If I am truly committed to “results first” I had to admit to myself that I was not seeing any results from my method, even though i felt good at the time doing it! I FELT like I was making a difference that I was telling them the truth! Maybe, but did I make a difference?
My entire goal now is to just get them to be a bit better (thanks Frankie and Adam), over how I feel about it.
Better, Bit by Bit
If someone has never gone to the gym, better is just getting them to the gym; even if they do extremely crazy, stupid stuff there. Now that they go to the gym, maybe I can get them to stay off the darn BOSU ball for a one exercise. Perhaps I can get them to eventually test one exercise.
I always struggle and feel like I need to get them to something better faster, but I really just need them to be a bit better, day in and day out. Even if that includes doing other things that may not be best. Overall they are moving in the right direction, and that matters most.
Results first.
“Our job is to only point them towards better” -Frankie Faires
Just like the pyramid in the photo at the top, bit by bit each stone is laid in the correct position. It may not seem like much at the time, but over years the result is massive.
Each PR (personal record) is one step closer. Another stop in the correct location on the path towards your goals.
Comments
What do you think? Am I doing the right thing? Let me know by posting a comment
Rock on
Mike T Nelson


















A humble lesson worth learning. Most people, including myself at times, are under the constant impression that whatever he/she is doing must be right, I mean he/she is a smart person so of course the decisions he/she is making is intelligent; we must be ‘right’. Being able to take a step back and look at your actions with a non-biased eye is an amazing strength and step towards better. IMO, it not only helps us better ourselves but others too. Having that eye is a big aid in taking it a step at a time showing others how to get better, instead of starting off just defining our way as right.
You’re helping me move towards better and better in the gym, Mike. Thank you.
Now this is something that can change the world.
Your constant nagging has sent me forward! I now have a kettlebell!
The KB swings have helped straighten my body out with minimal effort. That is a GREAT thing someone with muscle syndrome (fibromyalgia). This is the only exercise that causes relief of pain for me.
Because of KB work I’m able to get on the elliptical for short times.
So yes, I’m doing more than I thought I could and hope to keep my tight muscles loose. Keep up the good work and thanks!
Mike,
First off, I very much appreciate what you do and I’m grateful for the help you’ve given me over the past several months.
Is it effective use of your time and energy to try to help those who are not interested in being helped? Or would your time be better spent on those who are receptive and interested in a better way?
Can you force change on those not interested in changing? Is it even ethical to try? I would argue no on both points. The minimal effective amount of effort necessary to help an individual change will always be less with someone who wants to change in the first place. The logic follows that you should be able to help more people get better faster if you focus on those who want your brand of Kool-Aid. These people in turn will become examples of a better way.
I think one should lead by example, set high personal standards, help anyone who asks, and avoid trying to change others.
Yeah buddy your efforts are noted, noticed, and relevant. I appreciate you spreading the big brain.
see you in about five weeks!!!
Will,
Thanks man! Totally appreciated.
Yes, email me the dates of when you are going to be here! Jodie and I are off to Tulum Mexico for some much needed R and R (and lots of kiteboarding) the first week of March, but I will be around the rest of the time. I am assuming you are talking about the Movement’s Pain and Athletic Performance course, right? It is going to be insane!!
Rock on
Mike N
Hi there Tyler!
Thanks man! You did amazing in the E-class for sure! Great work and massive changes!!
I agree. My new plan is to have different offerings for people at different points. Some are ready to test all of their exercises and some have not made it to the gym yet! Wherever people are at is fine—the goal is the same—get better!
Yep, I am working on the target audience aspect as we speak. Hopefully the new site will help with that too.
Thanks again!!
rock on
Mike N
Thanks for the kind words Vicki and I am so glad to hear you are doing better!
Keep up the awesome work and keep us all updated!
Rock on
Mike N
Thanks Roland!
It is up to us and everyone here at the site to keep pushing it forward!
Rock on
Mike T Nelson
Thanks Kevin! I always appreciate your insightful comments.
It is easy to confusing feeling with results. Pre-fatiguing a muscle makes the next exercise FEEL harder, but studies have shown it is not as effective.
I am glad that I have helped you in a small way. Kudos to you for putting in the effort and taking action!!
How are the grip events going? Looks like you are doing great!!
Rock on
Mike T Nelson
Mike,
I’d say a bit more than a small way. Your specials are always entertaining/motivating; plus, I love the random training studies you post up on facebook/twitter.
Grips going well, I hit a snag when I really bruised up my left hand during karate, but that’s just about fully healed and only affected grippers and pinch curls. I’ve been getting a lot more variety into my support grip training. Made some psuedo rolling thunders and a 1.9″ Vbar out of pvc pipe and chains. The Vbar is really slick, but fun to train with. I’m loving the fingertip bentover rows too, they test well almost everyday; they seem to be a great compliment to some of the bodyweight stuff I’m working now too. All that plus some fun entering Jedd Johnson’s weekly grip challenge and I’m a happy guy.
Any good kite boarding days in your near future?
I like the analogy of training in the gym compared to getting work done in the day. I can use that.
My gym is the opposite of Planet Fitness (in many ways). Specifically you’ll get stronger just stepping foot inside.
Kevin,
Awesome! Sounds like you are doing great—whoo ha!
Glad you love the plate rows—I love them too. Great for the upper and lower back, grip and even hamstrings to hold the position. Ooooh, fun toys too!
Jodie and I leave for Tulum Mexico around the last couple days in Feb for some much needed R and R and kiteboarding too! I guess you can kite right from the beach where we are staying. Their are 16 of us nuts in one house there, but since we know the people who reserved it, we are sharing the “pent house” (probably just the top floor–hahah) with them. Got a great deal too, so we could not pass it up. Can’t friggin wait!!
Keep in touch man
rock on
Mike N
Logan!
Yes, steal that one for sure. I am pretty sure I stole it from Charles Staley years ago.
Where is your gym again? I will be out in LA area around the end of March if you are near there? Sounds like a great gym for sure! Are you going to be here for the Movement’s course on Pain and Athletic Performance? Hope to see you there!
Rock on
Mike N
Hey Mike, great post. Always good to try to unbiasedly “know thyself”.
This post made me think back… Remember when you were advocating foam rollers
As always I appreciate your knowledge and advice
Thanks Charles!
Yes, I did recommend foam rollers in the past. I went as far as buying them for my clients and giving them one for free! I am no saint and I’ve done and recommended lots of stuff that I don’t do/recommend any more.
I consider that a good thing, since I’ve found better ways to do thing. I am sure I will look back at what I am doing now in the same way, but without doing what I am now I will never get to a different place!
Rock on
Mike N